Comment from mydownfall
Date: July 29, 2008, 6:48 pm

Depending on what’s released next year, here’s my early favorite for my album of the year for 2009.

Comment from Mikel
Date: July 29, 2008, 7:06 pm

I’ll believe it when I see it

Comment from salastna
Date: July 29, 2008, 7:13 pm

After MTM, I dont even care.

Comment from mattjames1708
Date: July 29, 2008, 7:17 pm

i became a big fan of minutes to midnight took me a while but its probably my fav. album by them now,and like always i think they’ll bring out another solid album.

Comment from mydownfall
Date: July 29, 2008, 7:23 pm

Comment from salastna
Date: July 29, 2008, 7:13 pm

After MTM, I dont even care.

Your loss.

Comment from salastna
Date: July 29, 2008, 7:28 pm

Fine then, its a loss I am willing to gladly take

Comment from Sox5452
Date: July 29, 2008, 7:38 pm

I’ll take the loss too, they should take a break after all their hard work, perhaps a nice hiatus?

Comment from Nate
Date: July 29, 2008, 7:41 pm

i second that salastna. calling mtm their best album is a grave injustice

Comment from Mike
Date: July 29, 2008, 7:43 pm

If ‘MTM’ was released by any other band everyone would be saying it was awesome. But because Linkin Park took a bold new direction by changing their original sound everyone hates it.

Comment from Jay
Date: July 29, 2008, 7:46 pm

Not true Mike. I don’t like it period. Wouldn’t matter who released it.

Comment from mrmojorisin217
Date: July 29, 2008, 7:48 pm

MTM is a good album, not great, not remarkable but good. I was bashing it for like two hours when my friend bought it about a month ago, and kept saying it’d be good if it weren’t for this song…wait this one is okay. It’s a decent cd, we just all want them heavy like Hybrid Theory and Meteora.

Comment from Jason
Date: July 29, 2008, 7:50 pm

Even when it came out I decided that I would like…..to throw rocks at it.

Comment from Meagan
Date: July 29, 2008, 8:30 pm

I second that, salastna.

“If ‘MTM’ was released by any other band everyone would be saying it was awesome.” — But most other bands don’t have the “hype” surrounding them like LP does. Their first two albums were nothing short of incredible, and then they release MTM.

WTF, man. WTF. That’s all I gotta say

Comment from ohgreat
Date: July 29, 2008, 8:44 pm

This will be a sight for my eyes to see once it comes out. I find that ‘Minutes to Midnight’ was disappointing compared to ‘Meteora’. No offense really.

‘What I’ve Done’ is the apex, but they do good on mellower tracks like ‘Shadow of the Day’ and ‘Leave out All the Rest’. I wanted something more to sound like in the vein of ‘What I’ve Done’ had to offer and it fell short. The rest sounds more like it should be the sequel to ‘Hybrid Theory’ and a bit of ‘Meteora’.

I wonder what the process is going to be like this time compared to the 4-yr gap that it took to go from ‘Meteora’ to ‘Minutes to Midnight’?

Comment from ARog2
Date: July 29, 2008, 10:16 pm

most overrated band out there

Comment from Forest Law
Date: July 29, 2008, 10:23 pm

More crappy U2 re-writes like “Shadow Of The Day”, more wimpy pop like “What I’ve Done”, and just more generic commercial fodder from these dullards. From day one I’ve never understood the Linkin Park and about eight years later I still don’t. I just hear a band that’s incapable of anything other than bar-band level musicianship, middle-school level lyrics, tone-deaf singing of a sad lonely teenager, and 3-4 minute radio-friendly pop/rock songs. I would really like to understand what makes these guys so special.

Comment from mattjames1708
Date: July 29, 2008, 10:28 pm

wait tone-deaf???…..if your talking about chester i think your way way off with that one.

Comment from Forest Law
Date: July 29, 2008, 10:29 pm

LOL, “bold new direction”. There is nothing, NOTHING, that can be considered even remotely bold about Linkin Park. They just moved away from rap/rock since it was no longer “cool” and are now basically generic emo-tinged pop/rock.

Linkin Park are not innovators - they’re bandwagon jumpers that have gone from one trend to another. Their popularity only comes out of the fact that their songs are catchy. So what - so are commercial jingles. I’ll give them their due when their guitarist can play a solo, their drummer can play a more progressive rhythm, and they can write a song longer than 4 minutes and doesn’t follow typical v/c/v/c format.

Comment from mattjames1708
Date: July 29, 2008, 10:36 pm

“What I’ve Done” Pop????? that song is far from pop…..and “Shadow Of The Day” fucking U2 like seriously have you ever listened to U2 like ever in your life……before you go and run down a band please make some better points.

Comment from Forest Law
Date: July 29, 2008, 10:53 pm

“Shadow Of The Day” … listen to “With Or Without You” and tell me that this song did not inspire it.

“What I’ve Done” was a clear attempt at radio airplay. The verses and chorus are very bubblegum and sing-songy. It’s a sensitive “woe is me” emo ballad that’s all the rage with the little girls. When it was current, your local Top 40 station was cranking it along with the hits from Rihanna and Timbaland. How the song is “far from pop”, I’d like to know. Everything Linkin Park has done has been pop, because it all goes back to catchy verses/choruses in every song they do - even the ones with screaming. There really is no art to their music at all.

Comment from ohgreat
Date: July 29, 2008, 11:02 pm

Linkin Park are an over-the-top band. There was hype when ‘Hybrid Theory’ started things off and the band haven’t sat down quietly since then. Then comes the debate over ‘nu-metal’. Really things haven’t sat down quietly.

I think Linkin Park are defined as ‘alternative’ rock. Rap-metal is dead. That was the cross of Hybrid Theory and Meteora did together. Minutes to Midnight is alternative. No questions asked.

Very disappointing record. All I have to say about Minutes to Midnight. Otherwise, leave the matter alone unless you have come with something better than trash talk.

Comment from Deuce
Date: July 30, 2008, 12:43 am

Unfortunately, I think that even if LP wrote another album like Hybrid, they’d get hung for rehashing old material. MTM was a step in a different direction, and fans of the “old” LP didn’t dig it. Ill agree that MTM wasn’t their best offering, but don’t for a second say the guys don’t have talent. The Beatles were pop…so? Are you going to say they were hacks too? Cmon guys, just because a band writes a song that isn’t strictly rock, doesn’t mean they aren’t a killer band.

Comment from Shadowking
Date: July 30, 2008, 3:43 am

Do I even get a say in this? I mean, come on. Speechless! That’s all I can say.

Comment from Raven
Date: July 30, 2008, 6:54 am

The last album was a stinking pile of dog turd, so I don’t care about a new album if it’s gonna be anything like that.

Comment from mydownfall
Date: July 30, 2008, 7:44 am

Like the opinion from a character from Tekken 3 really matters.

Comment from Raven
Date: July 30, 2008, 7:55 am

if we’re judging people based on usernames then your “downfall” has hit rock bottom if you spend your time listening to shit like the latest Linkin Park album :P

Comment from mydownfall
Date: July 30, 2008, 8:06 am

I guess someone can’t take a joke, even though my joke was not directed towards you. Even though Raven is the name of a playable character from Tekken 5. Quoth my “downfall” nevermore.

Oh no he didn’t!!!

I will check back at some point to see whatever retaliatory message you have for me. But in all seriousness, it’s a joke. Lighten up.

Comment from bigcurt
Date: July 30, 2008, 8:21 am

Honestly, I am not ashamed to admit that I just don’t like MTM because it is a different direction. I was a huge LP fan, one of the biggest..even before they were known as LP. MTM was a complete change in direction for them, and I just didn’t like the direction..what is wrong with that? To say I would like the album if someone else did it, would be a very harsh statement. To call the guys over at LP untalented though is absolutely ridiculous. Just listen to HT, Meteora..or even better, see them live.

Comment from Raven
Date: July 30, 2008, 8:35 am

I’m not sure how you use the internet but a joke when typed is usually signified by following the sentence with a emoticon, such as ;) or :P which mine had, thus was clearly a joke. Yours however didn’t and you’ve been the serious one getting overly defensive about Linkin Park so wether you were joking or not is debatable.

Comment from mydownfall
Date: July 30, 2008, 8:51 am

I’m sorry I didn’t “properly use the internet” when I was joking. With the exception of when I typed “Your loss.”, at what point did I get overly defensive.

I’m not here to defend Linkin Park. I’m not here to defend my own opinions. That’s the beauty of opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own. I just happen to really like Minutes To Midnight. I’m not trying to convert anyone.

Comment from twistedriffster
Date: July 30, 2008, 8:56 am

wow, I’m surprised at all the negativity. I still haven’t heard all of MTM, but from the singles, it sounds pretty good. More of the problem I have with the negative comments is with this ‘it doesn’t have enough solos’ stuff. Fine if you don’t like the songs, it’s not your style that’s cool. But, come on, just cause a song isn’t the most challenging to play does not mean that it sucks. I myself like solos but just cause a song isn’t the fastest or is easy to play isn’t really gonna affect my liking it. And, how many bands stay heavy or get heavier with each successive release? I mean, there’s Staind, Papa Roach, Korn, Drowning Pool, etc. it’s just the way things go.

Comment from ohgreat
Date: July 30, 2008, 12:04 pm

Negativity = mixed reactions.

I do like ‘heavy’ in Linkin Park. Speaking of Staind, I remember things were ‘heavy’ back when “Break the Cycle” went big. Then weren’t big after “Chapter V” didn’t bring back what’s left of “Break the Cycle”. It’s bands like Papa Roach and Korn that keep things heavy from the beginning. There’s Drowning Pool involved really in all things heavy. But things are meh after I’ve listened to their album “Full Circle”.

I’ll have to agree with twistedriffster. IT IS the way things have to go.

Comment from jman3000
Date: July 30, 2008, 12:58 pm

Half of MTM was good, the other half sounded like a completley different band to me. I hope their new one has a better sound to it. My favorite LP album is definitely Meteora.

Comment from josh
Date: July 30, 2008, 2:25 pm

Personally I liked the album. Never listened to all of Meteora or Hybrid Theory, just the singles.. what I heard was great. MTM was to me a more musical and philosophical record.. but then I prefer rock with a melodic tendency.

Papa Roach and Korn keep it heavy? Huh? have you listened to each of their past albums? Korn’s was too calm for me, I’ve never listened to it in its entirety yet… Papa Roach’s was very radio friendly sort of rock, defly not heavy, in the sense of what they once were. Which is why he cited Staind and Drowning Pool alongside them… compare their early work to their most recent and they are far from their heavy beginning, much easier to get radioplay sort of music. Cuz money talks, even though the bands cater, when they can, to the core fan base..

Comment from Forest Law
Date: July 30, 2008, 4:49 pm

Linkin Park were never heavy. They were not metal in any way, unless you consider “metal” as anything with screaming in it. If you call them “nu-metal”, then they’re definitely the lightweights of the genre compared to anyone else. Usually when an LP song has screaming, it’s just a little - I’ve never heard screaming the whole way through in a song. They’re a pop/rock band. Yes, so were The Beatles, but they grew over the course of their career toward a more adventurous sound. We never saw it coming from them - maybe, just maybe, LP will surprise us one of these days. Somehow I highly doubt it.

Papa Roach haven’t been remotely heavy since Infest, which has some fast-paced songs with screaming. Since then, they’ve been melodic hard rock, usually without any screaming or rapping. They seem to bridge the gap between arena rock and alt-rock, as they’re clearly influenced by acts like Aerosmith and GN’R yet still covered The Pixies.

Korn’s last two albums weren’t heavy at all. They seem to be working in kind of an electro-rock vein now. Either Jon Davis is in a happy place now, or they just need Head to come back. C’mon, Head - Jesus will forgive you if you go back to Korn.

Comment from Forest Law
Date: July 30, 2008, 4:51 pm

Staind? Ugh. The new song is awful and yet another attempt at a re-write of “Outside”. Can’t these guys just step out of the box and break away from the formula? I don’t care if they go back to the sound of Tormented and Dysfunction - just change it up a bit!

Drowning Pool seems to have gone down a somewhat more mellow path ever since Sinner. I sense that the band’s overall sound has been tempered with the melodic Southern hard rock vibe brought to the band by Ryan McCombs.

Comment from bigcurt
Date: July 30, 2008, 5:25 pm

Sorry, I don’t agree with the whole “Metal is screaming” analogy. There are tons of bands ( especially what are considered “nu-metal” bands ) that are considered metal that don’t have much screaming in them. If you had to categorize Linkin Park ( which I don’t agree with categorizing and limiting great music anyway ) then I would have to go with Nu-metal. As a matter of a fact, Meteora and Hybrid Theory both made Metal Edges, “25 Nu-metal albums you must have”. I believe you said earlier in your comments that you haven’t listened to much Linkin Park other than the singles. I definitely advise you to pick up Hybrid Theory at the very least. Might I add for everyone to remember their first single as well if you want “more screaming” :) .

Also, I like Staind but I just do not know if they will ever be able to bring back “Mud Shovel” days lol.

Comment from Brandon
Date: July 31, 2008, 7:09 am

I don’t like the Staind single either, but they released another song from that album to Rock Band called This Is It that is much, much, much better. Still radio ready, but a much better song than Believe or whatever it’s called.